SHEN HAO PTB 617 CAMERA + CUSTOM FILM HOLDER
INTRO
In 1994, Shenhao Professional Camera Company, LTD. was established in Shanghai, China. Its specialization is designing and manufacturing large format wood cameras and accessories. It has grown to have over 70 products and eight worldwide distributors.
There can be confusion about their name. In English, it reads: “Shanghai Great Art Professional Camera Company Limited,” and can be seen on some of their products. However, due to the massive size of China, most Chinese companies add the name of the city where the company is located to avoid confusion.
Therefore, we now have Shen Hao (Shanghai) and Da Yi (Great Art), with each syllable equal to a character. Shen Hao and Da Yi are the same company in China making professional camera equipment in Shanghai.
Pictured above is their PTB 6×17 folding field camera that I dream of owning someday. I have found their camera gear to be of excellent quality. I can only comment regarding the equipment I have owned; other photographers have also stated positive reviews.
SHEN HAO 6X17 FILM BACK + LINHOF MASTER TECHNIKA 3000
SHEN HAO SH617 FILM MAGAZINE
FILM MAGAZINE: SH617 Film Magazine
Because I enjoy the 6×17 panoramic format, I tried the Shen Hao 6×17 film magazine (SH617) after I regrettably sold off my Fotoman 617 MKII-L camera system.
Attaching the SH617 film magazine to a 4×5 camera moves the film plane further behind the camera’s ground glass. I never measured it, but imagine your ground glass is now about an inch or more closer to you than usual. The SH617 adds to the camera’s weight and girth once it is attached to the camera’s graflock back and changes the focal perspective to a 5×7 format. The lenses you may already be using with your 4×5 camera may not work for this image circle requirement, but remember you are shooting in the 6×17 cm ratio, not 5×7 inch.
Check before purchasing, as it is a box attached to the rear of a camera and is not the same as shooting with a camera designed for the 5×7 format from the ground up.
There is more to be concerned with than just the image circle since the front and rear standards are specific to the 4×5 format (assuming your camera is a 4×5 camera only). Attaching the box to the rear standard causes some visual obstruction looking forward. If your camera is similar to the Wisner 5×7 Technical Field camera I once owned, you may not experience this problem using the SH617 with an attachable 4×5 back onto a 5×7 camera.
In the end, I decided the SH617 was not for me. The magazine operates fine as long as you understand it is a “bare essential” type of gear with no automation whatsoever, and you need to practice with practice film before you go out in the field to shoot with it.
I give it a yes because the images I shot with this back matched the composition on the ground glass and were in sharp focus. The fact it was too much for me to carry and set up should not take away from its ability to produce 6×17 images nicely if you do not mind all the baggage it comes with.
I sold the SH617 because of the bulk and weight it added to my setup and the required time to attach it to the camera and focus on the less-than-desirable ground glass. Ultimately, it became too much of a hassle to commit to, so I returned to using my Techno Rollex 6×12 magazine.
Someday, I hope to acquire a 6×17 dedicated field camera like one of these Shen Hao 6×17 field cameras. The SH617 is a reasonable option for photographers who want to shoot 6×17 on 120 film and cannot afford a 6×17 camera as long as they keep their lens selection to a minimum and understand the SH617’s limitations.
DAYI S-IIA 6×17 PANORAMA CAMERA
DAYI S-IIA 6×17 PANORAMA CAMERA FRONT, FILM MAGAZINE, GROUND GLASS
After missing the Fotoman 6×17, I sold many years ago, and finding the new DAYI S-IIA 6×17 6×14 6×12 Multi Format Panorama Shift Camera, I placed an order and then returned it less than 2 weeks later after an endless back and forth with the seller. After filing a PayPal Resolution, I received a full reimbursement. What an experience.
I ordered a new camera and lens cone via the eBay seller, mytongguy. Now, before I get into the details of why the camera and lens cone were sent back, the seller was polite and responsive, but they did not have a clue about how to operate the camera and lens. I am guessing they order it from the factory and resell it, but do not understand how hyperfocal distance focusing works or the reasons for aperture/distance scales on a lens. They have what they call a ‘tech guy,’ I corresponded with him and sent the following photos with explanations, but he wanted to modify the lens cone, and I said no. The seller does not understand the definition of precision.
The lens cone was ordered for the Nikkor 90/8 lens. I have both the Nikkor 90/4.5 and 90/8, and I intended on shooting the Dayi 617 like I shoot the Cambo Wide 650 via hyperfocal focusing. I keep the Nikkor 90/4.5 in my Ebony RSW bag and use it with that camera. Both Nikkor 90 lenses are excellent lenses. I have been shooting with both and decided on using the F8 version for hyperfocal distance usage.
THE DAYI S-IIA 6×17 PANORAMA CAMERA KIT SENT BACK TO SELLER
Once I received the Dayi 617 kit and saw the lens cone, my immediate thought was they sent the wrong cone. I spent $460 for the lens cone and expected a cone with apertures from F8 to F64, but this cone had F4 to F32. Not my lens! When I ordered the lens cone, I sent them all the requested information for the Nikkor 90/8, including a copy of Nikon’s brochure page showing a photograph of the lens and all its specs.
The camera itself was exactly as I had expected. The view from the ground glass was dark, but I planned on focusing via hyperfocal distance, so it did not matter much to me. The viewfinder was really nice as it was going to be handheld for compositional purposes only, and it was perfect for that and matched the ground glass pretty close after testing with my iPhone.
But I was concerned with the lens cone as I have never seen one so out of aperture range for its lens before, and I was hoping it did not affect the distance scale because if it had, I was screwed!
DISTANCE TESTING WITH DAYI S-IIA 6×17 + NIKKOR 90/8
To verify the results, I exposed two rolls of film in the landscape using my normal working apertures of f/11, f/16, and f/22. One roll was focused on the ground glass, while the second relied on the lens distance scale and the hyperfocal technique I have used successfully for decades. Every ground glass image was critically sharp. Every hyperfocal image was out of focus. At that point I knew the lens cone had not been manufactured to the correct specification.
I contacted the seller and explained the problem. Their response was that every cone was made the same, with only the lens mounting hole being customized. They offered to modify my cone “somehow,” but would not manufacture a new one to the proper specifications. Since they clearly did not understand the issue withthe inaccurate distance scale, I requested a refund. The seller insisted I pay return shipping and fees even though the product was defective. After eBay and PayPal stepped in, I eventually received a full refund of more than $1,800.
Unfortunately, this was not my first experience with sellers who appeared unfamiliar with the equipment they were offering. In an earlier transaction involving an Ebony viewing bellows, I was repeatedly told the item pictured would not fit my camera, despite providing photographs and documentation showing that it would. That sale ended before I made the purchase.
Because of these experiences, I cannot recommend this seller. The camera itself was well made, and I appreciated the removable film back, but the incorrectly manufactured lens cone prevented me from using the hyperfocal focusing technique that has served me reliably for decades. If you purchase one of these cameras, I strongly recommend verifying the accuracy of the distance scale before the return period expires.
When I return to 6×17 photography, it will likely be with a field camera such as the Shen Hao or another Fotoman 6×17 if I can find one in excellent condition. I never had a single problem using the Fotoman with hyperfocal focusing, and I still regret selling that camera.
2025: BACK TO FOTOMAN 6x17
The camera and lens perform beautifully. While the Dayi does offer a removable film magazine, I don’t consider the Fotoman’s fixed back a dealbreaker. In fact, I prefer the Fotoman’s lighter weight and more refined design. The Dayi does have rise, though—something to consider if that’s high on your list.
All in all, I’m thrilled to be back with Fotoman. I recently added a Schneider 150mm f/5.6 and matching cone for an upcoming 6x17 film studio project (hand-colored floral bouquets), which I’m really looking forward to, once I find the time!
Links to the lens swap and calibration process are at the bottom of the page, in case you’re interested. Bottom line: I’m glad I returned to Fotoman. It just fits.
DA YI 6×12 FILM MAGAZINE + MASKS
DA YI 6×12 FILM MAGAZINE + MASKS
FILM MAGAZINE: DA YI 6×12 Film Magazine
The Da Yi film magazine produces sharp images, but it is by far the most challenging film magazine I have ever loaded and unloaded, and I have had many different film magazines. I sent the manufacturer a message requesting loading instructions and hoped to hear back because something seems wrong, but no response was received.
I feared I may have damaged my first roll because the take-up spool was not latching onto the spool nut and moving around—I had never seen that before in a film magazine. Then, when unloading the magazine, I could not get the take-up spool out even though it was flopping around! But the film came out just fine, and below is an image from the first roll.
CAMBO 6x12 MAGAZINE
EBONY RSW45 + NIKKOR 90/4.5 + DA YI 6×12








